5 Reasons to hate Seattle

I recently came across a website created for people who hate Seattle. I read through a number of the entries and found myself nodding my head vigorously at each point mentioned. Yes, yes, yes! All true. For a moment, I considered adding my thoughts and posting them at that site, but since I already have my own blog, why not share my feelings right here with my readers?

To put it simply, Seattle sucks. I spent just over two years there from 2009 until 2011.  Before Seattle, I was living in Portland, Oregon where I had hoped to settle down. However, the job market there was not what I had anticipated and when I was offered a decent job in Seattle, I had to accept as I was quickly running out of money.

I had heard some negative things about Seattle before arriving, of course, such as the lousy weather and the traffic. But I figured I could make the best of it. It’s a big city with some world-famous attractions, after all. Seattle has Mount Rainier, the Space Needle, Pike Place Market, Pioneer Square, distinctive neighborhoods, Puget Sound, professional sports teams, and a waterfront. Plus, it has a reputation for musical innovation (Jimi Hendrix, Grunge etc.)  and liberal politics.

My expectation that I could  endure the bad aspects of the city and maximize the the positive attributes turned out to be wishful thinking. Actually, I knew times were going to be rough when a colleague of mine gave me a welcoming gift a few months after I arrived. It was a book titled ‘Dont Jump. The Northwest Winter Blues Survival Guide.’ The ‘don’t jump’ part of the title refers to jumping off a bridge in the attempt to commit suicide.

The Weather 

Simply reading about Seattle weather cannot prepare you for the reality of it. Nothing can, really. It is as bad as you have heard. Even a normal year in Seattle is difficult to withstand. However, during the time I was there, a record was set for the longest number of days when the temperature failed to rise above 60 degrees. I can’t find the article online to give the exact record, but I think it was six or seven months. Furthermore, during that dreadful spell it rained nearly every day and the sun became a distant memory. My skin, deprived of the warmth, vitamin d, and healing energy of the sun, became extremely pale. Looking at my face in the mirror, I realized that I looked unhealthy and unattractive. My pallid skin seemed to reflect perfectly my inner misery.


The clouds, rain, and cool temperatures are not the only phenomena that must be endured in the far Pacific Northwest. People sometimes forget, as I did, just how far north Seattle is situated. From November until February, the sun remains very low on the horizon and during the depths of winter in December and January, days have only seven hours of sun. When I left for work at 5:30 in the morning, it was still dark outside with sunrise being a couple of hours away. And when I got back into my car at 3:30 in the afternoon to come home, it was already dusk. The entire day had passed by while I was in my office. I was lucky if I could go outside during my lunch break to get a few minutes of sun. Only a masochist would want to put up with that kind of climate for long.

To rub salt in the wound, the NWO also sprayed the Seattle skies relentlessly with chemtrails. On many days, the skies were so thick with chemtrails that I got nosebleeds. Seattleites, being too busy staring at their smartphones or just being tuned out of reality altogether, took no notice.




I am a veteran of ‘The Battle in Seattle,’ the famous uprising against the WTO which set in motion the movement against corporate globalism. I came away from that experience with the impression that Seattle was city of radical leftists, revolutionaries, and liberals. The impression that Seattle is a ‘liberal’ city is one that is constantly fed by not only the mass media organs, but also the so-called ‘alternative media.’ What I quickly learned was that, in fact, Seattle is not a liberal city at all. It is a corporate town to the bone, and deeply proud of it.

Seattle is, in many ways, defined by its corporate nature. It is the birthplace and home of Starbucks, Boeing, Microsoft, and Amazon, among others. These are not small players on the international stage. A large percentage of Seattleites work for these corporations or their ancillaries and are not about to speak out against globalism or corporatacracy when their  paycheck depends upon it. The liberalism that you so often hear about in Seattle is only the social liberalism variety, sometimes referred to as cultural marxism. In other words, if you live in Seattle, you are probably pro-choice, pro -gay marriage, pro -LGBT, pro- multiculturalism, and pro- Democratic Party. If you are not in favor of those things, you learn to keep your mouth shut.

The Traffic

I grew up in Washington D.C. and have lived in Austin, San Francisco, and Portland. Additionally, I have visited some large cities in Asia and South America so I am not unfamiliar with heavy and chaotic traffic. Seattle is the most unpleasant place to drive a car and get around that I have ever been to. The combination of geography, weather, city planning, and population makes Seattle an absolute nightmare for driving. There is only one major north-south route through the city and it is always congested. Traveling east-west is no better. Sitting in your car in traffic is a daily fact of life in Seattle. Traffic is so bad that most of the time I would do anything to avoid it. I would stay home instead of going out on weekends or evenings. The parking situation in downtown Seattle is beyond bad. There is little to no street parking and the rates at parking garages and lots are exorbitant.

The never-ending construction in downtown Seattle only made matters worse. There were a number of major projects happening in 2009-2011, including the construction of an underground subway system.


If I wanted to visit downtown Seattle on a Friday or Saturday night to enjoy some dinner, drink, and maybe music, I was confronted with a nightmare scenario. First, I needed to drive on the interstate from my apartment in South Seattle, never knowing how bad the traffic would be. Then, I  needed to negotiate the tangle of downtown streets, including many one-way streets and streets with steep hills, never a fun prospect with my stick shift. Next, I had to find a parking space or be willing to shell out 10 or 15 bucks for a spot in a lot. If I managed to successfully do all of that, I then had to walk a few blocks in the rain to finally arrive at my restaurant.

Once at the restaurant or bar, I didn’t dare have more than one drink, for I knew that awaiting me on my drive home was a hornet’s nest of cops on street corners waiting to nab their quota for the night. Unmarked police cruisers were everywhere on the roads. One wrong turn down a one-way street or one forgetful moment of not turning on my blinker was enough to get me face-to-face with one of Seattle’s finest. I had plenty of experience with Seattle cops during the WTO protest and I witnessed firsthand what they are made of, and capable of.  In 2010, a big local story was the cold-blooded shooting death of an unarmed, non-aggressive, innocent Native American artist by a Seattle cop.  The young cop simply stepped out of his car, barked a few words at the man ,who was mostly deaf, pulled out his gun and shot him dead on the street.

The Dating scene

Do not, under any circumstances, move to Seattle if you are single and have any hope of finding a spouse, a partner, or even a date. Seattle is, by a wide margin, the worst city for dating I have ever visited or lived in. In general, people are cliquish, aloof, superficial, rigid, and uninteresting. I was neither a hipster nor a corporate drone, so that ruled out about 95 percent of the population. As a single man, I found myself hitting constant roadblocks, whether I tried the online dating route or the bar/club/restaurant/ scene. Many of the young women I met seemed  uninterested in dating, men, and sex. They seemed almost asexual. Maybe it’s the weather.

Image versus Reality

Seattle’s liberalism  is only one example of how the myth of the city does not match the reality. I was initially excited to shop at Pike Place Market, an icon of the city. Sure, the market is probably useful for those lucky enough to actually live close to it, but for those of us who need to drive into the city to get there, it’s not worth it. It’s mostly a tourist trap and has a generally unfriendly vibe. Pioneer Square feels run-down and depressed. It too is mostly frequented by tourists. Elliott Bay Bookstore moved across town and now has a much more corporate and sterile feel to it. The waterfront boardwalk is boring and lifeless.

If you decide that all of the above are not enough to deter you from moving to Seattle, remember too that you will have to pay through the nose for the privilege of living there. It was not cheap when I was there a few years ago and I read recently that rents have gone up steeply in the last few years. Prices are now approaching the level of San Francisco.





52 thoughts on “5 Reasons to hate Seattle”

  1. Thank you for your article. I relate on all levels to the unpleasantness that is called “living” in Seattle. It’s more like dead walking or ghost walking through Seattle. I choose life, dear god and people and have 4 days more. I cannot get out of this town fast enough.

    1. Congratulations on getting out. What a great feeling it will be to see Seattle in your rear-view mirror and know that you are escaping from hell.

    2. I have lived in Seattle for two years and some change. I tried to get out by getting a job in San Diego. I tried to work from home, but it did not work out. So I am looking for a way to move back to California, job or no job. It’s time to leave, even if I have to go into my savings to do so.

      I grew up in California and have lived in a variety of other places in the country. I lived in D.C. for four years as I worked for the Federal Government. I actually lived two blocks from the Capitol Dome, so I had fun hobnobbing with Senators and people high up in the Federal Government. I attended church on The Hill and became accepted on multiple forums, including work. I was met with friendliness and acceptance. The only drawback to D.C. is the high crime rate, even on The Hill.

      Then, at my sister’s insistence, I moved to Seattle (Mercer Island). I would not recommend Seattle to ANYONE. What a horrid place. It’s not the dismal weather. It’s not the lack of culture. It’s the vapid, unfriendly people who live here. I have one good friend: a woman I met about 10 years ago while visiting my dad. I have circulated. I have done volunteer work. I do social dancing.

      You will hear from a lot of single women that Seattle men never ask them out. This is very true. Only other out-towners seem to even possess the courage, or the sex drive. I am constantly chatted up by men from out of town. (Unfortunately, they are all married.) Men do not make eye contact here.

      Also, as soon as a guy here hits the six-figure salary range, you will see him with a variety of teen-age girls at least 1/3 his age. There are the escorts as well.

      Both D.C. and California have much more sophistication than Seattle.

      And the medical profession? Just try to get anything done here and it will not be done. Seattle doctors are horrid. They either don’t possess the skills, or they just don’t care. The only other time I have seen the “masturbating under the lab coat” thing was 40 years ago. Yet my “reputable” G.P. has done it multiple times. It’s like he’s faking being a doctor. Doctors practicing here would get their licenses yanked in any other state.

      Good bye Seattle! Good riddance.

      1. I too have lived all over, including DC. Moving out of Seattle was BY FAR the best decision I have ever made. There only up from there! Highly recommend it!

      2. Hi Sue,

        What a horrible experience you’ve had in Seattle. I can especially relate to your experience with the dating scene. And you’re right about the lack of culture as well. Be sure to let us know when you’ve managed to escape.

  2. Thank you so much go writing this! I am bookmarking it and will reference it until I can get the hell out of here in two years! I moved here with my ex (who loves it here) from Oregon. It’s been nothing but one disaster after another and the relentless struggle to just survive in a city that absolutely sucks on every level, is barely survivable. I stayed so the kid could be close to his dad. It’s killing me!

  3. I live in Eugene, OR, and it’s the same kind of hell – the Pacific Northwest, originally settled by cold Scandinavians since 1910, everyone seems like they are the living dead, no humor, no spark, no life.
    They’ll have a conversation with you one day and cut you dead as if they’ve never seen you before, the next. It’s a brutal, brutal place.
    Five years of hell, can’t wait to get out soon. Everyone here is gay so good luck getting a date, but will be single the rest of my life if I stayed here.
    And they seem oblivious that there is a world outside of their valley. It’s truly a terrifying place and is like living in Zombieland.
    But it’s not a fun Zombieland, it’s sinister, the people are sinister and mean you harm. They want to hurt you.

    And the Pacific Northwest has the most provenance of serial killers anywhere on the planet. Ted Bundy, et al. all were from here and did their killings in the PNW. That weird vibe u’re picking up? Yes, it’s that. Serial killer vibe.

    Google it. These people are not play play, airy fairy weird, they are truly evil and kill people.

    The people in the PNW are nuts, scary and it’s a waste of life to stay here.
    Anyone who likes it is one of the zombies.

    I just pray that I am still human when I get out. Because so far it’s driven me away from my humanitarian stance and wanting to help people, because I don’t think these people should be saved or helped.
    They don’t want love, kindness, affection, conversation, company, companionship, anything human at all.

    And it’s not even indifference, it’s a cold, calculated, targeted evil that they have. Like the Borg, but programmed to hate.

    Yeah, only those who have lived here can understand because I didn’t know that people like this could even exist.

    Even the Fire Department says to be careful of the crazies that live in the woods with their guns, be careful when knocking on doors when there are forest fires, you might get shot.

    My ex-friend in Santa Barbara said, “I’d have friends in no time if I came up and lived there,” mocking my experience, saying I should get out, make connections.
    He had NO idea what he was talking about.

    This place has almost driven me to suicide, because I thought I’d never be able to get out, for a long time. But I now have a plan and resources to get out and I’m damned if these waste of human flesh creatures are going to destroy my life.

  4. Kyra,
    I hear what you are saying. Living up in PNW can feel extremely isolating. It’s no wonder the area contains the loneliest cities in the US. I found it helpful to come across sites like this were I knew it wasn’t me anymore. Look forward to you getting out. In the mean time, I hope you are able to stay sane and not hurt yourself because of the area and the people. There are such better places and people out there! You are almost there.

  5. I moved to Seattle a year ago and I have hated every moment since. I am single and have not met one normal person out here. I found myself nodding on every single thing you mentioned. I plan on moving in the next year. Great post!

    1. Hi Sara,

      Thank you so much for the comment. I hope you can get out soon. Find a place with sunshine, normal people, and less traffic. Go outside the U.S.A., if you can.

    1. Get certified to teach english, go to spain, asia, indonesia, beautiful, inexpensive, interesting. Or Get a job on a cruiseline. Sign-up for workaway. Whatever it takes to get out do it. This isn’t something to put off. Just get the fuck out, that is not a healthy place st all. Take care.❤️

  6. I want to compliment the writer of this blog on his skills of articulation. Well said! As a native from Seattle, slowly dying inside from a lack of light and constant bordeom, I agreed with all of it. Seattle is boring, evil, lifeless, cultureless.
    So glad I got out. If you can’t afford to leave, get certified to teach english to foreigners and go to Asia or Europe. The schools will pay for your housing. Don’t wait, this is your life, and the darkness your experincing in that city is real. Glad you are al healthy enough to see it. Don’t wait, just go for it!

  7. Thanks Vicky. I agree with your advice about teaching English overseas. Even with the increase in the number of teachers coming to Asia, there are still plenty of jobs here.

  8. I hear every word that you are saying. I moved to Seattle 2.5 years ago for my job and have been plotting to move out since the day I first drove down I-5. My stay here has been rife with rude people, a fiancé who left without saying one word, and unaffordable housing that would not fly anywhere else in the U.S. to say the least. I feel like an idiot because people visit all the time and think it’s so spectacular and I am not seeing it. I work in healthcare and should be able to get a job anywhere but I feel stuck in the system I am in. I keep waiting for a work transfer but it doesn’t appear there are any available in the immediate future. I don’t trust my decision making skills after this latest catastrophe and I am about to just up and go to my parents house (at nearly 40 years old! The horror!)… just so I can get out. I recently traveled to the Dominican and feel like all I want to do is live in a shack there and look at the SUN for several days. I hope everyone who has commented finds their way and I am inspired by those of you who managed to get out of the worst place on earth!!

    P.S. I am losing my social skills (which used to be plentiful) at an alarming rate. I am now used to not making eye contact, not responding at an appropriate rate during conversation, and forget about saying hello. Oh and I hate the Seahawks too! Just throwing that out there.

    1. Agreed….this place changes you, and not for the better. I too have felt myself losing interest in socializing, being alarmed- almost shocked my normal social interaction. Hang in there, from what I hear, once you escape and get back to a normal, functioning location, the symptoms will fade away and you will gain your life back. Here’s hoping, I have two months before the great escape!

  9. Brilliant post – I feel like I just read a page out of my diary! You nailed the maddening experience of living in this dreadful place. After five years (why did I wait so long!) I’m heading south in search of warm sun and friendly, welcoming smiles.

  10. Wow. I am here in Seattle for the first time. Am (was?) considering moving here. Even have a job interview set up. I am originally from Kansas, but have been in Los Angeles for almost 30 years and was feeling Iike I needed to get out. Was in entertainment for many years but haven’t been for the last 15 years, so I don’t have to be in LA.

    Thing is–I hate the hot dry heat in LA during Aug-early November. Those Santa Ana’s suck. My skin is really enjoying the moist air in Seattle.


    The dark vibe here. I get it. It’s not the weather bc it is gorgeous here right now.

    But the dark vibe. It’s not just me, is it?

    What to do, though? San Francisco is too expensive. Portland doesn’t have the job market I need.

    Shit maybe I should stay in So Cal and try to find a place close to the beach. It’s just so expensive there and I don’t like the beach culture.

    Ah well. Sorry to drone on and on. Any suggestions appreciated.

    Best of luck to you all!

    1. The dark vibe is real. Do you really have only two options? There’s a big wide world out there. Do you have a family or are you single?

    2. What about Raleigh, NC (metro = Raleigh, Durham and Chapel Hill)? Sunny, warm, moist, affordable, friendly open people and great job market Goldilocks = just right. Any farther north = too cold and any farther south = too hot. Has 4 true seasons….. fall and spring are spectacular and winters are very tolerable. Common to have 55 degree sunny and dry days in mid winter and get out for a run with thin long sleeve and shorts. Lots of greenery and hills. Summers are hot and humid but most places are other than out west.

  11. Rather than dredge up my personal aspersions about this Third-Tier-Hamlet-of-a-Shite-hole, I will agree wiv you on everything but the weather. I love the drizzle. But maybe that’s ‘coz I’m retired and don’t have a schedule. I gave up my car a year and a half ago – NO COMMENT. The people… erm… I see my friends in Europe more than the ‘friends’ I have here [on that note, when I was undergoing chemo I called a friend who promised to help me if I needed a ride. I was too weak to walk the block and a half to the pharmacy to pick up a script. I called her. She couldn’t help; she’d been drinking.]
    They say the grass is greener. I have been to European capitals I wouldn’t mind risking living in. I own my condo and it appreciates at an obscene rate. I don’t really mind living here, it’s just that I don’t feel one’s life should be about compromises.

    1. With the money you could get from selling your condo, you could live on a nice beach town in Ecuador or Peru for ten years, or more. Or, looking further, Cambodia is cheap and has pleasant weather, beaches, forests, and ancient ruins. Good luck.

  12. I agree with all of this as well . I have two more years to “serve” here before I can go and not sure I can make it . My last child will graduate in that time and has hasked to be able to stay in this HS to keep her grades up , My husbands job usually moves us around but we stayed to try to stabilize her school years. It’s killing all of us . We came here in 2010 for 2 years in Portland when the co here laid him off after we’ddriven 2500 miles and still had several hundred to go ( major aviation MRO but NOT Boeing ) This company has been he** to work for . We were sued by a tow truck company after our car blew up and burned to the frame on I-5 that they picked it up on their own accord while we had gone for help to remove it ourselves – they sold it at auction , were not satisfied with what they got and decided to sue us for what they think they are owed , we went to some good old boy kangaroo court in Everett and lost- we would have been better off just not showing up . Pay cuts , Rent hikes of $3-400 several times . I had my licence suspended over outdated tags of one week – The fine was so high that I have been on payments forever on time and it is suspended anyway . I am a liberal , these are not liberals , they are fanatics that have no clue how the outside “real world” works and / or limousine liberals . I now live in a shack for 1600.00 and have developed terrible agoraphobia because the traffic finally drove me into my house rarely to emerge . I HAVE to get out of here.My husband got laid off a final time in Dec was injured in a freak accident during a job interview and just now went back to work. We never should have come here . The company pursued us 4 years and it totally misrepped what was in the contract to work for them . We barely make it here , He is now at the same place that will lay him off again just to get enough cash to bounce out of this place . When we got here we were making $90,000 a year and had a nice house , we will be lucky to leave here with the clothes on our backs . Its been a disaster . More than I could list here and we have lived all over the world .

  13. The Mayor has trashed seattle in more ways then one. Seattle is the welfare city, we have a mayor that paints rainbows in crosswalks, he also trys to hijack the black race for his side, if we think for ourselves we are ass’s, seattle creates its own problems in order to ask for money to fix them. The people that are incharge suck. they gave away our city it is a garbage heap.

  14. Amen brother!! The only folks impressed with Seattle are it’s own. It’s a city of education in the absence of experience.

    Dating eww…the chics are like dudes, and clearly run the sh*t show. The dudes are mostly arrogant rich kids, liken to frat row date rape esque douche bags

    And yes then the famous absurd over the top offense kicks in, if you are not impressed with the city of lameness. The chics get their passive aggressive on…and turn everything into a drama fest.

    No one is who they say they are. No siders. Cannot trust them.

    I am a hot chic real woman. The brats think their money is impressive, I know wealth, I’m not impressed with your Tesla. The old school dudes are far and few between, and the women are just awful. U ghh rejects that were never popular so trade off is Master’s degree in who gives a f#*k you’re still a frumpy dumpy mean girl.

    Women hate me. Men stalk me. Get me the F out of here please.

  15. ive lived in seattle my entire life and i love the weather. we get long sunny days durring the summer, and as soon as the weather gets gloomy i realize the holidays, and football season are here!

    i actually like the dark winter weather. i write some of my best music during the rainy months.

    if you dont like it… well fuck off. i piss in your face

    1. LOL Tough talk from a Seattle pussy. Those of us with brains left that hellhole. The braindead like yourself remain there and ‘love the weather.’

  16. Left Seattle four months ago after spending 35 years there. Seattle used to be livable and affordable and even vastly charming, but Amazon really sank the city rapidly. Rents housing skyrocketed and suddenly we had a humongous homeless and heroin problem on top of the wretched weather and hellish traffic. Seattle is now sadly a cesspool and there’s Abigail wide world of much much saber and safer places to move to. I do feel sorry for those still stuck there. And you will feel stuck, because just like the author says, you will not drive or take the bus unless you absolutely must.

  17. Brian, you hit the nail on its head with your piece. Very well written and I can relate to almost everything you wrote.

    Coming to Seattle I thought I’d won the lottery. I thought I’d love it and settle down. Man, if I had know back then what a dreadful place Seattle truly is.

    I’ve never been more depressed in my life! The weather there makes you feel absolutely hopeless and lifeless. I got to the point where getting out of bed was a real struggle.

    Someone on here wrote about a sick vibe… so true! It’s hard to verbalize it but there is just something wrong with that place and its people.. and it affects the newcomers big time.

    I literally felt the weight be lifted off my shoulders when I left. Never again!

  18. Amen brother. When you don’t leave your house for anything besides groceries you know it’s time to go. Moving around the metro with so many idiots on the road drives you insane. I lived there for 14 years. Left 2 years ago for sunnier skies, friendlier people – fewer of them and have no regrets. Refused to raise my kids there (lots of drugs and psychos) and told my wife I had no idea why people pay premium $$$$$ to live in the Seattle shitbox. Insanity. If you are considering moving there, get your head examined. If you are still there and have the means to get out, get your head examined.

  19. The website you linked is “Account Suspended”. I wonder if the host was a Seattle based hosting company who didn’t like to have someone spread the truth about that toilet of a city.

    I am close to retirement and I can’t even afford to think about retiring in this overpriced shit hole.

    1. No the suspended it because there were some nasty trolls on there stinking it up with all kinds of racist language. Move away and you’ll be thanking yourself forever and finally living it up in retirement. Good luck!!

  20. I spent the worst 16 months of my life in this rancid shitpile. My wife and I moved up for a job opportunity after I took a mid-career sabbatical to study in the Bay Area. We decided not to move back to Denver to keep the cultured “west coast thing” alive after we realized that the Bay Area was too expensive to own a home and raise kids.

    Wow did we choose wrong. We landed in an apartment in Wallingford…I am pretty sure that nobody even acknowledged our existence the entire time we lived there (3 hellish months). All I can remember are the stacks of literally dozens of amazon boxes littering the lobby everyday, like the fucks living in the building couldn’t even go to the fucking store to get anything. Every single day. We would take our toddler daughter to a nearby park, and the locals wouldn’t even acknowledge us. Only fellow transplants.

    Another time, some little shit (actually a 6-foot-6, 25-year old “man”) twice complained to his friends about my 2-year-old daughter crying in her stroller as we walked down a street in Fremont. He looked at her the second time and said “god-you’re ruining my day.” At a public crosswalk. On a Sunday morning. My scrawny self immediately ERUPTED at him and chased him into the street screaming about him hopefully getting hit by a bus. Never have I been so mad in my life. Also one of the few times I experienced “emotions” while there.

    After getting pregnant with our second, we bailed out of the hideous apartment to an unbelievably overpriced rental house in north Seattle. At least we met a few neighbors there, but the oppressive dark winter, hopeless financial situation ($2300 rent), and heroin baggies in the lawn essentially ruined our collective will to live. All I can think of is our pathetic tomato plants producing tiny green fruits that wouldn’t ripen (due to lack of summer sun). No amount of friends or “culture” can make up for this climate if you are not from the area.

    Shortly after our second was born, we bailed out (under place-induced marital distress) and returned to Denver. Sun. Actual positive human emotions. Eye contact. A year (and a course of therapy) later, life is in color again and everything is orders of magnitude better.

    I have no regrets (having survived as an intact family)…I now see Denver for all its wonder in a new light. Still, I would NEVER recommend that any friend move to this hell on Earth called “Suiattle.”

    Keeping in contact with all of my young former coworkers, I see that they see no future there because they will never be able to own even a shack amidst the miserable corporate zombies pulling $200,000/year.

    I realize that is just my experience, but I have met too many others with similar stories for it to just be an anecdote…

  21. Good to find likeminded spirits. Stuck here until youngest grads hs… little over 3.5 years to go.

    I try to stay indoors at home as much as possible. Even with that, I’ve been hit by cars 3 times in the last 3 years, all were not my fault. 2x in my car, 1x on my bike. Hundreds, maybe thousands of close calls. There’s an extremely dangerous mentality among the masses to use their vehicles as weapons, and it’s way past the point of being a cancer. People will almost hit me, then scream at me. I see them screaming at young adults in crosswalks not doing anything wrong, calling the police on people after they were the jerk, and it’s without end. I live in terror every day youngest walks to and from the bus. There are rare bright spots of good human life, but it is very rare. Usually, these property destroying creeps work in retail locations where nothing is stocked, wasting more time and resources. It’s a game and an art to try to order groceries online as much as humanly possible.

    Hope I can make it through. :/

  22. Miami, Chicago, Austin, Charleston, Denver, then here.. Seattle.
    I’ve given up my rant of “worst city ever” because its alienated the friends who convinced me this was the best. But honestly, can you call someone a friend after they trick you into coming here?.. it’s the worst. I came here directly from a few years in Miami and St Maarten , which had been preceeded by a few years in Breckenridge. The last 2 years have been wretched. My only bright moments are trips to seatac to leave.. and when friends visit from home.
    Thanks for writing this!
    6 more months!!!

  23. One of my aunt moved out there in 2000. She lived&worked in Vegas for last 35 yrs prior.I went to visited her in early August.first 2days were fun.after that,I was slowly going insane.it drizzled constantly. In Vegas, its either gonna rain or it ain’t.no 2ways about it.I found myself craving the crazy triple digits Vegas summer.I missed the bright, shiny sun with desperation.I ended up leaving a week earlier than planned. Yes, the people also strange.however, the weather situation was so bad I couldn’t spared the strength to be bothered with them.

  24. Been here two years and have one more to suck it up. Can’t wait to get out. It’s like a weird cult here. The no eye contact thing drives me crazy! I do love to antagonize a stranger though by talking to them and watching them get the twitches.
    I secretly hope this whole place falls into the sound when I’m away on business so I don’t have to return.

  25. Thank you some much for this post. Its nice to know that I am not alone in my sentiments about Seattle. I’ve moved up here to zombiville from the Bay Area Oct 2013. I attempted suicide within my first week of arriving here.
    Born and raised in Philadelphia, PA I’ve lived in a few places: Charleston, WV, Meridian, MS, Long Beach CA, Atlanta, GA, San Farnsco CA, San Jose, CA, Huntington, WV, Sacramento, CA. Seattle is the most unfriendly place I’ve ever lived. Its been four years, I have yet to make a friend here. The zombies here are self-absorbed, fake, passive-aggressive, emotionally-stunned, materialistic, neurotic, psychotic, and evil. And yes there IS an evil dark vibe which permeates the psyches of the natives of this fiendish place. I am on disability thus it will be difficult to leave. But I know I must leave. Beacuse this demonic place is slowly destroying my spirit and will to live. I don’t leave my apartment too often.

      1. Hello Brian,

        Thank you for your kind words of encouragement. I am trying to save up to get out I am really considering the idea of returning to Charleston, WV. The cost of living is much more affordable and the people are REAL.

  26. I’ve started to vocally tell other men to stay the fuck away from this living hell for single men. The cost of living,bthe horrible weather… Neither compare to the shitty ass dating scene for men up here. Loser women from everywhere flock here and develop “must have lists” as soon as their heads swell up from all the attention but they receive.

  27. I hate Seattle not because of the weather, the winters are mild compared to my Alaskan childhood and the summers are beautiful, but because of the city it’s people have designed. Seattle manages to make loud noises about welcoming diversity, needing to fix its traffic problems, and how urgent it’s housing shortage. This all done while managing to be a highly segregated metro area (check out a Renton Walmart and compare the people there to those in a Bellevue grocery store), expanding networks of toll lanes to ensure its elite no longer need to compete for road space with the masses, and zoning that manages to prevent both sprawl and density while absurdly blaming its housing shortage on the Chinese. The incredibly stupid notion that building new higher density housing just prices poor people out of cities has also root in this place, probably because the laws of supply and demand have long been so contorted by social engineering that they no longer make intuitive sense to the residents. The people make great noises about cultural diversity, however if it’s of the American kind it is not to be tolerated. For example if someone wants to go shooting with a friend from a different culture (I’m from Alaska where guns feed you and protect against bears) they become subject to an hour long harangue about from their liberal Marxist friends about how they are contributing to violent crime. Seattle has managed to make itself one of the most unworkable cities for middle class Americans, hostile to all non-culturally Marxist thought, all while pretending to care more deeply about equality, freedom of thought and cultural diversity than anywhere else. Seattle is also a city that claims to be more nature loving than most others, while having a dearth of green spaces or parks (it has killed every attempt at a master park plan) throughout the city and managing to isolate itself from nature by 1.5 hours of weekend “hiking traffic”. Seattle manages in part to avoid actually solving these problems by throwing its hands up helplessly at the horrible newcomers who come in to destroy the best city in the world (which they decided not to accommodate over decades) and continuing to not build enough housing or infrastructure to accommodate population growth projections. It then proceeds to look down snobbishness upon parts of the country which have avoided these problems for failing to emulate it or it’s culture. Now that degree of hypocracy is what makes it a very special kind of shit hole to me. Thankfully one summer internship and visits to my inlaws over 6 years has saved me from making the mistake of ever calling it my home.

  28. Just reporting in to say leaving Seattle was the best thing in my life! I moved to the Midwest and was seriously afraid of the snow and winter cold, but it’s actually no big deal. Love the low cost of living and ridiculously easy traffic in my new city. Seattle has become literally infested with thousands of homeless addicts who behave like zombies in the streets. If public defecation, fornication are your thing, you’re going to love Seattle. Or maybe being trapped daily in bumper to bumper traffic with thousands of stoned transplants is more your cup of tea. Or tasteless vast new blocks of ugly architecture and the demolition of anything historically unique? You’re in for a treat! Seattle residents are uniquely tunnel visioned and believe the delusion that Seattle is the only place to live. The climate contributes to this insular conviction even in spite of the terrible costs to sanity, pocketbook and health Seattle demands. My advice is just leave as virtually any other city or town will prove superior to the insanity of what Seattle has become.

  29. Hello, Brian.
    Thank you for sharing your experience. Have you ever lived/been to Boston, MA? I am asking, because my husband and I moved to Boston a little over a year ago from San Jose, CA and I have been feeling like I am dying ever since. We also lived in San Francisco, where we got married, and I had previously lived in Tampa, FL and Miami. I loved FL and CA but my husband needed a change after 25 years in North CA so we moved. I feel exactly the same way about Boston as you feel about Seattle. I hate winter, snow and dirt, which lasts from November till April. I mean, yes, there is sun, but who needs sun when it is below freezing? Road conditions are horrible, traffic is the worst I have ever experienced in the US, GPS never works properly, no free affordable parking even for banks or hospitals, housing prices are ridiculous: same as in San Francisco, people are awful and never smiling or communicating. My husband loves it though, but I am ready to shoot myself. Today he offered moving to Seattle, cause he might get a job opportunity there… I guess, I should not even consider Seattle, right? It would be great if you could give me your ideas. I feel stuck now. I am honestly ready to move back to Bay Area, but my husband hates it so much, he would never do that…

  30. Hi Katrina,

    Yes, you’re right: moving to Seattle would be jumping from the frying pan into the fire. Don’t do it. I’ve never heard anything good about Boston, so your experience does not surprise me. Are you and your husband forced to live in big cities because of your careers? I don’t know your situation, but if you have any flexibility at all, consider a small town, maybe in the south, or do I like I did- move overseas. Best of luck to you and persevere. Things will improve for you.

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